前天傑克打電話來，說他的治療地點已經改到溫哥華的南邊衛星城市列治文(Richmond)，這個場地是另一位熱心人士出借。他同時也託我一件事情，想藉由網路來瞭解大家對他所做之決定的看法。我想，自從幾天前傑克和教會起衝突而分道揚鏢之後，他心裡產生了相當大的困惑：他這樣做是對的嗎？同樣是以上帝為本，難道就非得受教會限制嗎？
我才剛打完上面那段，傑克又來電話，說事情有重大的變化。有位從中國來的牧師，姓名不是很清楚，傑克只知道他人稱梁博士，也是有特殊能力的見證牧師，對中國的基督教有某程度的影響力，他站出來為傑克說話，宣佈說：若有人要說傑克的能力來自魔鬼，他就要出面為傑克辯護。這位梁博士還說，如果沒人敢為傑克施洗，就由他來施洗，而且會傳授他一些．．．什麼「屬靈」的能力（我不懂什麼是「屬靈」），將來傑克的能力會更強。也就是說，事情走回原軌：傑克將成為正式的見證牧師，但不受任何教會管制，基金會籌備的工作將繼續進行，他可在教會體制外為任何宗教的信徒或無神論者治療。
從電話中聽得出傑克十分高興，說冥冥之中，上帝自有安排。
關於這位梁博士，在google上查了一下，應該是梁燕城，「加拿大文化更新研究中心」的院長，著作不少。據某論壇網站上一則關於梁燕城的簡介來看，似乎也是滿有趣的人：
梁博士於一九五一年十二月十三日出生於香港。一九七七年於香港中文大學取得哲學碩士學位，一九八一至八二年爲香港中國神學研究院特別生，及後於美國夏威夷大學取得哲學博士學位，專研中國儒學及易學。
梁博士是國際中國哲學會、國際儒學與基督教對話會議及國際易經學會的會員。他開創了『文化更新研究中心』，並創辦了一份在北美鮮有的中文學術文化刊物《文化中國》學術季刊，該中心及其出版刊物主要爲促進中西方的精神文化、學術思想及靈性修養的對話交流。中心亦曾邀請數十位中國學者到西方演講、對話及考察，並互相分享靈性生命的價值。現已在全球有超過二千位會員的支援及充份得到中國學術界的接納與推崇。
屬靈是說 from the holy ghost。
聖經上記載著耶穌死後宗徒們本來相當恐懼，但某天 holy ghost 以火舌的形象降臨在他們身上，於是他們不但不再害怕，還忽然能以各種語言講道傳教。
諸如此類的事。
Hello:
Mark 9:38-42. Whoever Is Not Against Us Is For Us.
"Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us."
Do not stop him,"Jesus said."Noone who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward.
傑克你好啊...^___^
幫傑克解釋一下這段聖經
「馬可福音9:38-42:
約翰對耶穌說:夫子, 我們看見一個人, 奉你的名趕鬼, 我們就禁止他, 因為他不跟從我們。
耶穌說: 不要禁止他,因為沒有人奉我名行異能, 反倒輕易毀謗我。
不敵擋我們的, 就是幫助我們的。
凡因你們是屬基督, 給你們一杯水喝的, 我實在告訴你們、他不能不得賞賜。」
我想, 傑克用這段聖經解釋了為什麼教會應當容許他在教會的體制外, 奉神之名行異能.
Posted by: jeph 發表於 2003.12. 9 02:29 AM忘了提上面那段中譯是網路上找到的, 不過"沒有人奉我名行異能, 反倒輕易毀謗我"這句譯得很奇怪, 它的意思應該是"凡是奉我名行異能的人, 不會突然又毀謗我" 才對.
Posted by: jeph 發表於 2003.12. 9 02:26 AM是聖經和合本？
這是一種很難了解的東西啊，跟外星文差不多。
明明寫的是方塊字，可是怎麼看都不容易了解。
英文好多了，不管是NIV或其他本
Posted by: cat 發表於 2003.12.10 05:39 AMHI!
THE HOLY BIBLE ─ KING JAMES VERSION：
ST MARK 9：38-41
38
AND JOHN ANSWERED HIM, SAYING,MASTER,WE SAW ONE CASTING OUT DEVILS IN THY NAME,
AND HE FOLLOWETH NOT US：AND WE FORBAD HIM, BECARSE HE FOLLOWETH NOT US.
39
BUT JESUS SAID, FORBID HIM NOT：
FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SHALL DO A MIRACLE IN MY NAME,
THAT CAN LIGHTLY SPEAK EVIL OF ME.
40
FOR HE THAT IS NOT AGAINST US IS ON OUR PART.
41
FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL GIVE YOU A CUP OF WATER TO DRINK IN MY NAME,
BECAUSE YE BELONG TO CHRIST, VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, HE SHALL NOT LOSE HIS REWARD.
以上經文乃出自詹姆士王欽定靈感本，
故使用古英文法字彙，
另之前傑克與JEPH引用之聖經內容應未包含第42節，
故在此僅引用38-41節！
TO JACK-
BALAK 139：
【Since we learned that a person does not commit any sin,
we should ask if the words matter when a person is very meticulous
about the details of the Torah and is asking his questions to clarify.
This scripture is difficult to understand and the question needs to be asked.
When the Holy One, blessed be He, went to Seir, to which Prophet of theirs did He appear？
And when He approached Paran, to which prophet of theirs did He reveal Himself？
If you say that He revealed Himself to the whole nation,
we find that it happened only to Yisrael alone and through Moses.
FURTHERMORE,we were taught that this is what the scripture should have said,
‘Hashem came to Sinai, and rose up to Seir to them；He shone forth to Mount Paran’.
What is meant by：“From Seir to them...from Mount Paran”？
All this must be known and be observed.
Though I asked, I have not yet heard.】
─ THE ZOHAR
Deuternomy 33:2
The Lord came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran.
He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.
Exp:
God came. When celebrating the exodus, the OT poets(poet-prophets) combined recollections of the mighty acts of God with conventional images of a fearsome manifestation of the Lord. He came down with his heavenly host and rode on the mighty thunderstorm as his chariot, with his arrows flying in all directions, a cloudburst of rain decending on the earth and mountains quaking before him.
Posted by: Jack 發表於 2003.12.18 05:19 PMName of God
As a single ray of sunlight contains the seven colors of the spectrum,
the one Light of the Creator embodies many diverse spiritual forces.
These different forces are called Names of God.
Each Name denotes a specific attribute and spiritual power.
The Hebrew letters that compose these Names are the interface
by which these varied Forces act upon our physical world.
The most common Name of God is the Tetragrammaton (the four letters, Yud Hei Vav Hei .)
Because of the enormous power that the Tetragrammaton transmits, we do not utter it aloud.
When speaking of the Tetragrammaton, we use the term Hashem which means, The Name.
Adonai, El, Elohim, Hashem, Shadai, Eheyeh, Tzevaot, Yud Hei Vav Hei
─The Zohar
Posted by: OMASA TAN 發表於 2003.12.19 01:47 AMto 神奇的傑克
內心中只要你確認你心中是有神 神自然會照顧你 不讓你受魔鬼的侵擾 但是諷刺的事是魔鬼又是從人類的黑暗面來的 因為心中沒有愛與信心 就會讓所謂的魔鬼來作祟 事實上這黑暗面只要攤在陽光下 就什麼事都乾乾淨淨了
加油 神與你同在 也有一群跟你一樣信心的人與你同在
I'm very grateful for all the encouragements that I received, God Bless All. After all those crises, foundation of my heart became so strong beyond anyone's imagination. I want to thank to Omasa Tam for such wonderful scripture Hebrews 5.
Starting Dec 29, 2003. Mr.Bill Lee is going to teach & guide me the elementary truths of Gods word. Hebrews 5:13-14. Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But the solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselfs to distinguish good from evil.
Marry Christmas & a Happy New Year.....
TO JACK ─
● MELCHIZEDEK 《=》 ○ MELCHISEDEC
§ The name that rules after midnight §
When the night falls,the written edicts are in their pockets.
Many harmful demons spread out in the world, which all roam around in confusion.
They go about and sock at the souls of the wicked and inform them of various matters, some false and some true.
If any PERSON is found among them, they are given permission to do harm.
Everyone is sleeping and tasting the taste of death, as we have already explained.
Come and see：
When the north wind stirs, the Congregation of Yisrael WHICH IS MALCHUT, is received by the left OF ZEIR ANPIN.
They join together and she rests in her place in the LEFT arm and the Holy One, blessed be He,
comes to delight Himself with the righteous who are in the Garden of Eden.
Whoever is awakened to study the Torah during that period is participating with MALCHUT,
because she and all her multitudes praise the High King, WHO IS ZEIR ANPIN.
All who are present at the praising of the Torah are registered among the inhabitants of the temple,
and are proclaimed there by their names.
These are recorded during the daytime;
THAT IS, THEY ARE REGISTERED TO RECEIVE CHASSADIM,
WHICH IS THE QUALITY OF DAY,WHICH IS ZEIR ANPIN.
Posted by: OMASA TAN 發表於 2003.12.28 03:05 PMto all
MAY THE LIGHT OF THE ZOHAR
BRING HEALTH, PEACE, HARMONY AND ENLIGHTENMENT TO THE WORLD AND TO OUR FAMILY ！
